Police Behavioural Interview

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Well, I've (freaking finally) gotten all the components of my OACP certificate completed, which means that I will be able to start applying to police forces for different regions.

I have at least a couple of questions for which I'd like your opinions/experience/tips/tricks.

First off, there's the likely fact that my first and probably second application will be unsuccessful. The idea behind that is, the police forces have a lot of applicants. Like, a *lot* of applicants. I know of one guy who just gave up after a while, though he's a smart guy and seemingly has his shit together.

Anyway, if you're an employer, and the chief traits you're looking for are "determination" and "maturity", and you have a large pool of applicants, well then, why not make one of your tests "Will he come back after being rejected?"

They won't tell you, I've been told, what area you were found deficient in, possibly because there might not be one, and so, instead of allowing you to focus on improving those specific areas, they force you to improve all of them.

So, they're looking not only to find good applicants, but also to see how much better they can get them (without having to do a thing, really) BEFORE they have to train their noob asses up to the level of a real cop.

So the first question, given that background, is this:

Should I apply and be rejected to Halton region, which is where I grew up (which is a big plus for my application) and thus have to wait a mandatory 6 months months (1 year recommended) before being able to apply specifically to Halton again, or should I apply to Metro Toronto, which is where I figure I have my best chance of getting in, based on the sheer number of recruits needed, and be rejected, which means that I can apply to another police force 3 months later, and Metro in 6months- 1 year.

I mean, I'm going to become a police officer, yeah. And I think I'd prefer Halton, though not to the exclusion of being a police officer, but I'd also rather not spend forever getting there. I've already spent forever getting my damn OACP.

The other question is whether or not you can share those tips/tricks (for both applicant and interviewer)/whatever, keeping in mind that the police interviewers will be looking for reasons to tell me to go home, moreso than they'll be looking for reasons to keep me.

Thanks

Jon

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Jon,

I'd recommend applying to Halton first. It's your first choice and there's a chance you'll get it first time. I know you think it's a very small chance, but you're very intelligent, well-educated, in excellent shape, proficient in self-defense, and you have some experience in security already. Still not a sure thing, but probably more of a chance than you think.

Basically, I wouldn't try to game the system. That way in an interview you'll be able to speak truthfully and forcefully about why you're applying (e.g., "Halton has always been my first choice, etc."). That kind of directness and honesty comes across, and those are key qualities for someone applying to be in law enforcement.

Also, when they inevitably ask you what you will do if you don't get the position, then you can answer truthfully that you would prefer to re-apply to Halton after the waiting period, but that you really want to begin your career in law enforcement and will apply to other forces in order to get started. Shows determination, flexibility, and the ability to focus on a larger goal.

Regarding interview tips, I'm not sure where you're at as far as interview experience, but I can tell you what looks good from the other side.

- Provide complete and cogent answers, but know when to stop. Given the adrenaline in an interview, it's easy to go on and on. Don't.

- Make a point of listening to the interviewer. Don't ever cut them off, even if you know what they're going to say.

- Be serious in your attitude of applying for the job, but don't be afraid to show a bit of appropriate humor (nothing racial, sexual, political, or religious). Let them know you're not a total stiff, but that this career is still very important to you.

- If you have any direct experience with Canadian law enforcement (family, friends, acquaintances in the force, and encounter with a recruiter at a job faire, working with the police in your current position, etc.), be sure to share how that had a formative experience on your decision to become a police officer. Any positive exposure to actual police is a plus.

- Let them know that this you want to become a police officer for important personal reasons (e.g., to help people, to prevent crime, etc.) and not just pecuniary ones (e.g., decent pay, good job security, benefits, etc.).

- If there is more than one interviewer, make sure to address them all. Make lots of eye contact.

- Don't be afraid to ask them some relevant questions as well. In fact have a few in mind before you go on the interview. Shows curiosity and engagement. Ideal to ask when they finish up with the "Do you have any questions?" line.

- When it's done, thank them each by name (you did remember their names, right?), shake their hands firmly, encourage them to contact you if they have any further questions, and then take your leave.

- Most importantly, you want to exude an attitude that says "I would really like to work for you and I am quite qualified to do the job, but if I don't get this particular job, it's not the end of the world." Determination; not desperation.

Feel free to ask me more specific questions or for clarification of these points. I know there's more, but that's all I can think of at the moment.

Best of luck.

Chris

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I think your assumption about being rejected so that you will improve for the next time round is incorrect.

If a good canidate presents him/her self they will offer a job and train the person themselves. Passing on an excellent canidate only risks another force offering a job.

I agree if Halton is your first choice, tell them it is your first choice and why.

Also keep in mind it is a lot easier to transfer from another force like Toronto, Durham or York after you have a few years under your belt. So don't let an initial rejection by Halton be the end of things.

Chris had excellent suggestions, the only one I would add is try a mock interview before hand. The problem is finding the right person to work with you. It needs to be someone who understands the process and will give you constructive criticism.

Above all else be yourself. The key function of a copper interviewing someone is to find inconsistencies and stupid admissions. The folks who will conduct your interview have done hundreds. Inconsistencies or trying to give the answer you think they want to hear will show-up glaringly.

There are a few things to prepare for such as the left field reactive question, where your reaction is gauged more then the answer. But far more important will be a good professional demeanour and appearance. Clear concise truthful answers with a confident air that is not arrogant.

Good Luck

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D' oH

Forgot the biggie.

What is it about you that makes you more desirable (for work) then the other candidates. e.g. languages (huge points), education (some points), ethnic background (some points), computer skills (small points); self-discipline and commitment (big points)

Keep in mind that the others will have the same basics, unless you have truly exceptional physical attributes, that is not the area to concentrate on, BUT if you do have an Olympic medal, or some way of showing self-discipline then show it off.

The shift work is a bi#%h, and they do not want showing up on time for 4:00 AM to even be an issue. A single mention of being able to handle shifts is worthwhile, but don’t push it.

Be really clear about selling yourself.

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Phhhfffssst wrote:
...unless you have truly exceptional physical attributes...

Ambrosia: Hush!

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This helped me a LOT: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1418040002/103-9490305-7747805

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Exceptional discipline?

I think that certain people still being alive is a GLOWING testament to my self-discipline. How do I present that in such a way to make it sound good?

Jon

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Raven wrote:
Exceptional discipline?

I think that certain people still being alive is a GLOWING testament to my self-discipline. How do I present that in such a way to make it sound good?


"Discipline? I've sat here, listening to you asking me these inane goddam questions without killing you yet. How's that for fucking discipline?"

Then sit back, put your feet on his desk, and light a cigar with absolute impunity, secure in the knowledge that one way or another, you will be intimately familiar with the Canadian justice system in the very near future.

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On a serious note, I would stop worrying about "tricks" that they play. Otherwise, you are going to freak yourself out wondering, "Is this a trick?? What do they WANT me to say? What answer are they looking for?" and will probably choke out some confused response. At least that's what I would do. Just answer truthfully and thoughtfully.

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Remember not to confess to any crimes during the interview.

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will probably choke out some confused response

You just summed up every interview, and almost every date I've been on.

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